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2015 Federal TrialtranscripttranscriptTracey Gordon — Direct - Day 55 - 2015 Federal TrialDefense witness Tracey Gordon recalled Jahar’s academic ability and classroom behavior as his fifth- and sixth-grade teacher. The Court limited questioning about her reaction to the bombing, and the government declined cross-examination.
Aloke ChakravartyMiriam ConradGeorge A. O'Toole Jr.Tracey GordonCourt ClerkTracey GordonMS. CONRADTHE COURTMR. CHAKRAVARTYdirect
2015 Federal Trial/Day 55/April 29, 2015
14 pages·11 witnesses·2,444 lines
The Court ruled on documentary evidence and limits on expert testimony. Defense witnesses read reports concerning Tamerlan, described both brothers' ambulance treatment, and recalled Dzhokhar's school and college years. Cross-examinations addressed the limits of witnesses' knowledge and Dzhokhar's independence.
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DirectDirectTracey Gordon — Direct Examination Tracey Gordon Miriam Conrad

TRACEY GORDON, duly sworn

COURT CLERK: State your name and spell your first and last name for the record, keep your voice up and speak into the mic so everybody can hear you.

TRACEY GORDON: Tracey Gordon, T-R-A-C-E-Y, G-O-R-D-O-N.

DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MS. CONRAD:

MS. CONRAD: Good afternoon, Ms. Gordon. Where do you work?

TRACEY GORDON: I work at Cambridge Street Upper School in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

MS. CONRAD: Is that a public or private school?

MS. CONRAD: What do you do there?

TRACEY GORDON: I teach seventh grade social studies.

MS. CONRAD: How long have you been a Cambridge public schoolteacher?

TRACEY GORDON: I think 16 years.

MS. CONRAD: And did you teach at a different school before?

TRACEY GORDON: I taught at the Cambridgeport School previous.

MS. CONRAD: And what years was that?

TRACEY GORDON: I don't remember exactly. Maybe around 2000, starting in 2000, 2001.

MS. CONRAD: And is teaching your first career?

TRACEY GORDON: No, it is not.

MS. CONRAD: What was your first career after college?

TRACEY GORDON: I owned a restaurant.

MS. CONRAD: And where was that restaurant?

TRACEY GORDON: On Cape Cod.

MS. CONRAD: What town?

TRACEY GORDON: Yarmouth Port.

MS. CONRAD: What was the name of the restaurant?

TRACEY GORDON: Chanterelle.

MS. CONRAD: And did you teach at Cambridgeport public school in the school years 2003 to 2004 and 2004 to 2005?

MS. CONRAD: And what grades did you teach in that year?

TRACEY GORDON: Fifth and sixth.

MS. CONRAD: I'm sorry?

TRACEY GORDON: Fifth and sixth grade. It was a combined-grade classroom.

MS. CONRAD: And did you know Jahar Tsarnaev?

MS. CONRAD: And do you recall what school year you first had him as a student in your class?

TRACEY GORDON: I think 2004-2005.

MS. CONRAD: I'm just going to show you a document for a moment.

MS. CONRAD: Just for the witness, please.

MS. CONRAD: Does that refresh your recollection what school year it was?

TRACEY GORDON: Yes, it does.

MS. CONRAD: And what school year was it?

MS. CONRAD: This is January 2004, so --

TRACEY GORDON: So it's January, so it would be 2003-2004, then.

MS. CONRAD: And what grade was Jahar in?

TRACEY GORDON: Fifth grade, I believe.

MS. CONRAD: And do you know where he went to fourth grade?

TRACEY GORDON: At the Cambridgeport School.

MS. CONRAD: Did he complete that grade?

TRACEY GORDON: No, he came up to fifth grade.

MS. CONRAD: Do you remember at what point in the school year?

TRACEY GORDON: Early in the school year.

MS. CONRAD: So he basically skipped fourth grade?

TRACEY GORDON: Basically, yes.

MS. CONRAD: And I'm going to show you a photograph.

MS. CONRAD: And, your Honor, this is just really as a chalk. I'm not offering it. This is Exhibit 3416A.

THE COURT: Is this on the document camera?

MS. CONRAD: It is. I didn't mean for it to be. Let's go this way. It's going to come up better. I forgot I had Ms. Sarr here to help me.

It's not coming up.

THE COURT: Yup, you should have it. Yes, now I have it.

MS. CONRAD: I have it.

And can everyone see that right now?

THE COURT: Does the government have any objection?

MR. CHAKRAVARTY: No, your Honor.

THE COURT: It's not being offered, but it'll be shown.

MR. CHAKRAVARTY: That's fine.

MS. CONRAD: We're going to show just a portion of it.

BY MS. CONRAD:

MS. CONRAD: And do you recognize what this picture is?

TRACEY GORDON: Yes, I do.

MS. CONRAD: And what is this picture?

TRACEY GORDON: It's a class picture of my fifth- and sixth-grade class.

MS. CONRAD: And that would be in the 2003-2004 school year?

TRACEY GORDON: I can't be sure.

MS. CONRAD: Do you see yourself in that picture?

TRACEY GORDON: Yes, I do.

MS. CONRAD: Would you put your finger on where you are in that classroom? You can just touch the screen. All the way on the right?

MS. CONRAD: And do you see Jahar in that picture?

TRACEY GORDON: Yes, I do.

MS. CONRAD: And can you put your finger on where Jahar is in that picture?

TRACEY GORDON: (Witness complies.)

MS. CONRAD: And at this point I would offer 3416, which is a portion of that picture.

MR. CHAKRAVARTY: No objection.

BY MS. CONRAD:

MS. CONRAD: Before you do that, though, do you have -- sorry. Sorry. Go back a second. Do you still have this picture in your classroom?

TRACEY GORDON: Yes, I do.

MS. CONRAD: And do you have pictures of other classes that you've taught in your classroom?

TRACEY GORDON: Yes, I do.

MS. CONRAD: Okay. Now I would like to show you 3416.

MS. CONRAD: And I'd offer that.

THE COURT: Admitted.

(Defense Exhibit No. 3416 received into evidence.)

MS. CONRAD: Is there any way to make it a little bigger?

BY MS. CONRAD:

MS. CONRAD: Is that what Jahar looked like when he was in your class?

MS. CONRAD: And that's just a portion of the picture we saw a moment ago, right?

MS. CONRAD: How did Jahar adjust to being skipped a grade?

MS. CONRAD: Tell us about that.

TRACEY GORDON: He acclimated very well into the classroom. He kept up very well academically. And socially, it was really a seamless transition.

MS. CONRAD: What do you remember about Jahar?

TRACEY GORDON: Super kind, really smart, very quick to learn, very hard worker. Just a really lovely person.

MS. CONRAD: Do you remember all your students?

MS. CONRAD: Do you remember all the students that you've taught in your 16 years teaching in Cambridge?

TRACEY GORDON: I would have to say no, truthfully.

MS. CONRAD: But you remember Jahar?

TRACEY GORDON: Yes, very well.

MS. CONRAD: And why is that?

TRACEY GORDON: Because he was an outstanding student, in terms of being just a very kind and hardworking and dedicated person. So beyond his academics, he was a person that you enjoyed being around.

MS. CONRAD: Now, was that true in both fifth and sixth grades? You had him both years?

MS. CONRAD: How did he get along with other students in the classroom and outside the classroom?

TRACEY GORDON: Very well. He made friends easily.

MS. CONRAD: And how was he in terms of being respectful to others?

TRACEY GORDON: Very respectful, in my memory, to all kids and adults.

MS. CONRAD: What did you know about his family?

TRACEY GORDON: Very little. I believe I remember meeting his dad once for a conference, a parent conference, that all students took part in.

MS. CONRAD: Did you know much about his relationship with his parents or his siblings?

MS. CONRAD: Did you know that he came from another country?

MS. CONRAD: And how did he seem to manage in English?

TRACEY GORDON: Very, very well.

MS. CONRAD: I'm going to show you a few pictures -- a few more pictures, if I might, and ask you about them. First is 3407. Could you tell us --

MS. CONRAD: First of all, I'd offer this --

THE COURT: Just as a matter of expediency, is there going to be --

MR. CHAKRAVARTY: No objection for 3407 through 3409.

MS. CONRAD: Actually, it's 3407, 3408 and 3410, I think. I'm not sure why we didn't do 9, but...

MR. CHAKRAVARTY: No objection.

MS. CONRAD: Thank you.

So are those are admitted, your Honor?

(Defense Exhibit Nos. 3407, 3408, and 3409 received into evidence.)

BY MS. CONRAD:

MS. CONRAD: So showing you 3407, do you recognize who's in that picture?

MS. CONRAD: And do you know who took this picture?

TRACEY GORDON: It was probably me.

MS. CONRAD: And can you tell us -- well, who is that in the picture?

MS. CONRAD: And can you tell us where this was taken?

TRACEY GORDON: At Farm School in Athol, Massachusetts.

MS. CONRAD: What is Farm School?

TRACEY GORDON: Farm School is a place where we would go every year. We would take fifth- and sixth-grade students to spend a few nights on a working farm so they would have an appreciation of where their food comes from.

MS. CONRAD: And showing you 3408, I think -- I hope -- I'm going to ask you about that one. And where was that photograph taken?

TRACEY GORDON: At the same location, Farm School.

MS. CONRAD: And, again, it shows Jahar?

TRACEY GORDON: Yes, it shows Jahar at the sink, probably doing cleanup chores.

MS. CONRAD: And was he responsible about doing those when he was asked to do something?

MS. CONRAD: And do you know what grade that was, by the way?

TRACEY GORDON: It could be fifth or sixth.

MS. CONRAD: And showing you 3410 -- well, strike that.

MS. CONRAD: May I just have a moment?

(Pause.)

MS. CONRAD: How was Jahar about participating in new activities such as going to the Farm School?

TRACEY GORDON: It's one of the things that I think made Jahar such a fine person, is that he really was happy to try new things, whatever it was. So I think he was -- I remember him being very enthusiastic about Farm School.

MS. CONRAD: And showing you Exhibit 3410, can you tell us about this photograph?

TRACEY GORDON: This is in my classroom, and we would have visiting professional dancers come and share their expertise with the kids. And this is Jahar, again, with a few of my other students participate in whatever the dancer was sharing with us.

MS. CONRAD: And can you just point -- touch the screen and show us where Jahar is in this picture?

TRACEY GORDON: (Witness complies.)

MS. CONRAD: Right in the middle?

MS. CONRAD: And what do you remember about Jahar's participation in that activity compared to other kids?

TRACEY GORDON: Again, very easygoing with participation. There wasn't hesitation. Sometimes kids at this age can be a little shy to participate, be self-conscious, but, again, my memory was that Jahar really was eager to try whatever school had to offer.

MS. CONRAD: What -- at the end of -- or at some point during his sixth-grade year, did you recommend him for an activity the following year?

TRACEY GORDON: I don't -- I'm not sure.

MS. CONRAD: You don't remember? Okay. If I may just have a moment.

MS. CONRAD: Just for the witness at this point, Exhibit 3552 at the bottom of page 2, please.

Page 2? Or maybe I have it numbered differently. Yeah. At the bottom, I'm just going to zoom in here a little bit.

TRACEY GORDON: Yes, I see I wrote he'd be a great candidate next year for peer conflict resolution because he respects a variety of perspectives and understands that conflicts are normal and not necessarily easily resolved.

BY MS. CONRAD:

MS. CONRAD: Could you tell us about that? What's peer conflict resolution?

TRACEY GORDON: I believe it was a program that the school was initiating for students to help other students resolve minor conflicts, what I would consider minor conflicts.

MS. CONRAD: Among themselves?

MS. CONRAD: And why did you think that would be a good activity for Jahar to participate in?

TRACEY GORDON: Because, as I remember it, Jahar didn't have any particular alliances with any cliques, and he really was outgoing in a way that he would befriend anybody and help anybody in need, and I thought that those would be excellent skills for that program.

MS. CONRAD: May I just have one moment, please?

MS. CONRAD: Do you know if he did participate in that the following year?

TRACEY GORDON: I don't think the program got off the ground, and I think that Jahar went to a different school in seventh grade.

MS. CONRAD: Okay. Going back on 3552 for one moment -- I think I just need a minute to find this. Sorry. I thought I had it in my computer, but I obviously don't. What was your reaction when you heard that Jahar was involved in the Boston Marathon bombing?

MR. CHAKRAVARTY: Objection, your Honor.

THE COURT: Sustained.

MS. CONRAD: I have nothing further.

THE COURT: Nothing?

You may step down. Thank you.

(The witness is excused.)

MS. CONRAD: The defense calls Becki Norris.

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